DYK that Lemmy now auto-plays videos **WITH SOUND**?!?
Here is an example link (edit: I originally had this example link, which also has the issue but then does not match the same posting as the other links below so the first one would have been better). Apologies in advance that the content of this video is political, but you can pause it immediately and not watch if you prefer yet still see the effect.
Caveats:
1. on most desktop browsers I have tried the auto-play is blocked; however in Firefox on Android it auto-plays with sound. For me, (edit: whoops what happened to the word "Chrome") shows the video embed yet pauses it, properly refusing to allow it to play unless I hit the giant Play button in the center. It has been too long but this may not be standard behavior for Chrome, although I did confirm this effect on 2 different devices from different manufacturers (yet if I made any configuration changes in the past to block auto-playing videos, I definitely would have done it to both:-P).
2. Lemmy.World users are safe for now, as too are users on sh.itjust.works, both presumably b/c they are instances not yet running the latest Lemmy code - though note that that just means that it is coming for you eventually, even if not quite here yet
3. none of PieFed, ~~Mbin~~ (edit: apparently this one does too, after a fashion, read in comments below), or Tesseract auto-play videos either, or as I mentioned seemingly any Lemmy instance prior to 0.19.6, though e.g. viewing this post from lemm.ee, the 3rd largest Lemmy instance, auto-plays it. Others that auto-play it include view this post from Discuss.Online, view this post from StarTrek.Website.
4. Edit: an interesting wrinkle, sometimes when you click the link directly, the video does not auto-play (most desktop situations seem this way, and some mobile devices too). But if you navigate to that post more naturally, e.g. click the link to the community first, then find the post (although note in this case that there are many posts describing this situation, e.g. have the word "ceasefire" in them) and click the link to it (or just hit the back button), then the video does auto-play.
This troubles me. Once again this kind of opt-out behavior offered "for my convenience" reminds me of some other place... although even Reddit offers the option to stop the auto-play feature (except for ads I suppose), whereas I see no such option in Lemmy (the closest would be "Auto expand media", which I have set to OFF). The number of places - like Netflix - that offers these kinds of “well ackshually these are not ads you see b/c..." really is off-putting to me.
The more you know I suppose.
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Жаль что Твиттер заблочили. Он удобен. Именно тем, что раскручен.
Даже во многих сериалах постоянно персонажи говорят что они там постят.
Другие микроблоги не тянут до него.
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Кажется, у меня нет клавишного треда.
Ну, значит открою его одной из любимых фортепианных аранжировок - вальса из "Спящей Красавицы" Чайковского в версии Рахманинова.
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Хотел найти живое выступление, где хорошо видно руки, но везде либо руки не видно, либо звук говно.
По крайней мере тут можно посмотреть насколько хорошо должны сработаться оба исполнителя чтобы не мешать друг другу.
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In December 1888, Tchaikovsky was commissioned to create a ballet by Ivan Usevorozhsky, director of the Imperial Theaters. Tchaikovsky, who was contemplating...YouTube
Не играл. Но слышал, что Акиру Ямаоку хвалят многие. Сам не слушал, не могу ни согласиться, ни опровергнуть.
Ледоколы толкают айсберг для освобождения прохода в проливе Мак-Мёрдо. Антарктика, 1965 год.
Чет давно меня тут не было(потому что я перебрался в телеграм).
Можно че-нить и рассказать. Итак:
1. Я начал переводить фанфик! После лютого кайфа от просмотра хазбина, и после лютого кайфа от прочтения одного фф по нему, я решил его перевести. Если хотите заценить - вот ссылка ficbook.net/readfic/018eec2d-6…
2. В этом году из-за военкомата я жестко полежал в дурке. Мейби закину сюда пост про ахуительные истории оттуда.
3. Я на втором курсе шараги, вухуу. Пока что вроде все идет нормально, даже что-то понимаю(невероятно).
Вроде-бы все. Может быть снова начну писать сюда шизомысли(ну либо дублировать посты хезе)
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if we can just focus on this across the fediverse, it unlocks a superpower no other form of social media has.
Great example is those loops videos. I want to watch them or at least give them a chance but I'm not leaving Lemmy to do so.
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Great example is those loops videos. I want to watch them or at least give them a chance but I'm not leaving Lemmy to do so.
duuuude i totally agree. the only reason i cant use loops is it doesnt freakin work without their app, or embedded.
Both the OP and this test seem to work on Mbin (I tried fedia.io, without an account).
OP also works on Tesseract at dubvee.org, but this entire comment chain fails to show up so I dunno about YouTube embeds - probably more federation woes:-(.
But it does not work on any Lemmy instance I've tried.
Edit: nor PieFed.
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I'd be surprised if that test worked on any platform in existence. You're using the markdown to render a static image, and sticking a youtube URL in there. PieFed supports it if the URL ends in something like .mp4, but that's only because Lemmy have fudged it, and so now people expect it. There's meant to be a 1:1 relationship between markdown and HTML, metadata transformed into metadata - nothing should have to look at the actual contents to know what tags to produce.
As for 'works for me embedded in mbin' ... eh? It looks like this in mbin:
That's literally just a external link to youtube. It 'works' because it doesn't - same as for the screenshot itself - instead of embedding it, it just coughs up the link to a remote site. Everything else is rendering it as it is - a broken link to an image that doesn't exist.
(maybe 'originallucifer' has some fancy app that takes a youtube shorts URL, works out the embed code, and then puts it in an iframe ... but like I say, I'd be surprised).
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(1) it works in Mbin though. I would expect it to work also in Tesseract, though the comment string still has not federated yet - perhaps the user is blocked for some reason, or all these numerous federation issues by most non-LW instances have prevented it.
Yes admittedly the Mbin embed is a bit strange, that looks vaguely somewhat like the "broken link" icon that shows up in Lemmy or PieFed, but it's actually not - that double-window looking icon is a signal for content that you can play directly inside of Mbin without having to leave it to go to a 3rd-party site. So click it, and it will bring up the entire YouTube video right there in-line.
That double-icon is also accessible while still browsing posts, so really you don't even have to go inside the full post in order to see it, e.g. you can see the double-window icon somewhat to the bottom left (though to the right of the preview area) of the page at fedia.io/search?q=Silent+Hill+… just to the left of "Comments Boost More", down below the username "chloyster". Clicking it expands the preview just below the listing of the post.
(2) Here is a positive example where a YouTube embed works on PieFed. Based on my test here, it does not seem to work in comments, but it does for posts?
And here is another one that works on dubvee.org: dubvee.org/post/dubvee.org/187…
Due to federation weirdness, the former post is not available on dubvee.org, and the latter one is not available on piefed, but anyway you can see that individually, those two platforms both are able to embed YouTube videos. At least, for posts, again not comments.
I believe this post describes when it was added to Tesseract, so somewhat recently (one month).
And Mbin works too - you have to click the double-window icon to get it to show, but when you do, it reveals the preview and you can play the YouTube video right there without having to leave the site. Here is the former example, and here is the latter example.
These features may have to go through extra hoops as you are saying, yet they "just work" so that the user can enjoy that extra functionality without having to sweat the details.😀
Ah, I see now, thanks. That makes more sense than my previous theory, that MBIN users were pathological liars or something. Also, now my previous comment makes me look like an idiot. Oh, well.
It's interesting what MBIN does - making the user click a button gives it an extra chance to query the remote site, so it can render it correctly. That's not the same as taking the markdown and rendering it as HTML, but the end result is nice.
Elsewhere (like on PieFed), Youtube embedding works well because the URL is in a nice dedicated field, so it's easy to process, rather than parse through the text of a comment to find it. No idea what's happening with Tesseract, but it's just a front-end for Lemmy (albeit a sophisticated one), so my guess is that your link would fail, but since the comments aren't there, it's a bit moot.
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Haha I think it is fully proper to ask every valid question like this - and in particular, like we see happen with PieFed all the time, and also Tesseract, someone could legitimately modify their particular instance in unusual ways that aren't committed to the common codebase yet (awaiting review, or potentially confusing, or cause trouble integrating with new upcoming features also trying to be committed?😀.
And I wasn't sure if my answer was appropriate or not - like if you saw it and knew already but you meant something totally different but then I completely missed, so thank you for your honesty bc it does make me feel better that I wasn't being a complete dolt here.
As for missing that feature... hehe I did as well, and this despite my first experiences with the Fediverse having been Kbin for MONTHS until it imploded:-(. It really does look very much like a broken image icon, and that's just a poor design decision on the part of Kbin's creator, imho. That said it's quite a useful feature, and I used it quite often - many times per day and even per hour. And still forgot all about it!?!?!😛 (it just looks that much like the broken image icon!!!! we don't even question it, OF COURSE that's what it is - what else could it possibly be‼️⁉️)
So yeah, thanks for your bravery (in like not merely deleting your prior comment, or you probably really could have brow-beat me into submission here with technical jargon) - it only makes me respect you more you know. As for others who choose to feel the opposite, that's on them:-D.
Yeah, that’s on me.
Normally I’d post the image and copy over the post body, however, this account is too new to upload images, so I’ve been linking directly to mastodon.
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in reply to OpenStars • • •~~Can't reproduce on chrome or firefox on a desktop (I don't even see a video). Something's up with your client my dude.~~
I can't read. I can reproduce on firefox android.
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in reply to OpenStars • • •This might be a firefox bug?
From the page you linked:
According to developer.mozilla.org/en-US/do…
So Lemmy isn't specifying autoplay, why is firefox playing it?
: The Video Embed element - HTML: HyperText Markup Language | MDN
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in reply to OpenStars • • •Here's the commit that enabled iframes for videos: github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/c…
Looks like this could probably just be swapped to a tag which doesn't autoplay by default: developer.mozilla.org/en-US/do…
I've created a github issue for this, github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/i…
Fixing peertube and ordinary video embeds. (#2676) · LemmyNet/lemmy-ui@2fdd420
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in reply to Shadow • • •Fixing peertube and ordinary video embeds. by dessalines · Pull Request #2676 · LemmyNet/lemmy-ui
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in reply to rhythmisaprancer • • •Interesting, yes I see that too.
Going to moist.catsweat.com/m/world@lem… and searching for this post, I don't even have to go into the post, but as usual clicking on the embed link (double window icon) expands the content just below the post. And as you say it immediately starts playing, not waiting to be asked to do so with another button press as is usually the case.
So I should edit my OP about Mbin.
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