PieFed, a FOSS Feed Aggregator alternative to Lemmy, but faster
Welcome to a new era of interconnected content discussion with PieFed – a link aggregator, a forum, a hub of social interaction and information, built for the fediverse. Our focus is on individual control, safety, and decentralised power.Like other platforms in the fediverse, we are a self-governed space for social link aggregation and conversation. We operate without the influence of corporate entities – ensuring that your experience is free of advertisements, invasive tracking, or secret algorithms. On our platform, content is grouped into communities, allowing you to engage with topics of interest and disregard the irrelevant ones. We utilise a voting system to highlight the best content.
- Source Code (Codeberg)
- Roadmap
- Comparing network utilization of Lemmy, Kbin and PieFed
- Instances
Video introduction the codebase
Comparing network utilization of Lemmy, Kbin and PieFed - PieFed
Us sitting here with our fiber internet and recent model phones have it pretty good. But the “i” in iPhone stands for “inequality”. Most people in the world still have pretty bad internet and old/slow phones.piefedadmin (PieFed)
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Nergon
in reply to Droid • • •Hello from Piefed! I was a regular on Lemmy and Mastodon for years, but I migrated to Piefed because it is much more lightweight.
The features page shows some differences between Piefed and Lemmy - join.piefed.social/features/ Mostly, I appreciate that it is written in Python, so more developers in the community may easily understand and contribute to the code base, and that it is so lightweight. When I connect to the internet I always have to consider data caps, so it's a relief when websites make a genuine effort to be efficient. I can reliably browse the fediverse through Piefed even when my access is throttled to 50Kbps download.
Comparing network utilization of Lemmy, Kbin and PieFed - PieFed
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Jezebelley
in reply to Nergon • • •mesamune
in reply to Jezebelley • • •SorteKanin
in reply to Jezebelley • • •fmstrat
in reply to Nergon • • •Nergon
in reply to fmstrat • • •jagged_circle
in reply to Nergon • • •Nergon
in reply to jagged_circle • • •Some features of the site (like responding to your comment) require JS, but I just tried blocking JS with uBlock and I was able to use most of the site perfectly fine.
I am not sure about strict mode on Tor, but you should totally report back if it works. Give it a shot!
realcaseyrollins
in reply to Droid • • •The Quuuuuill
in reply to realcaseyrollins • • •realcaseyrollins
in reply to The Quuuuuill • • •WanderingVentra
in reply to realcaseyrollins • • •Two of the developers are scary communist tankies. And no, I don't think software can be right wing or left wing. Maybe if it's centralized, like X, but the developers of Lemmy can't interfere with Lemmy servers they don't admin, and it's open source (lots of other people contribute to the Lemmy source code at this point and so would be able to spot things added in).
Personally, I think the right way to advertise other competitors on the fediverse isnt to fear monger about the developers, but to say what features the alternatives have that might be good. Also, it is nice to have competitors, so also just to advertise based on the availability of alternative options, since it is nice to have those just in case.
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realcaseyrollins
in reply to WanderingVentra • • •The Lemmy devs? I'm aware of this. I'm a right winger and that doesn't affect me nearly as much as the far left communities of Lemmy users.
The features are all I care about. Eventually I'll find the right people here and be able to build the communities I want.
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Andrew
in reply to realcaseyrollins • • •realcaseyrollins
in reply to Andrew • • •Ooh I didn't know that the exploding-heads guy did anything else.
Why block instances though? I've never been a fan of that, I just let people block me.
Andrew
in reply to realcaseyrollins • • •realcaseyrollins
in reply to Andrew • • •MBM
in reply to Andrew • • •...really? I always got the impression that the admin is some teenage girl
WanderingVentra
in reply to realcaseyrollins • • •oce 🐆
in reply to realcaseyrollins • • •I am surprised that you have survived this long. I am rather moderate left, and even after blocking the main extreme left instances, I still question my presence when I see the amount of far left populism that gets acclaimed here.
realcaseyrollins
in reply to oce 🐆 • • •Diva (she/her)
in reply to oce 🐆 • • •Sounds like you're plenty interested in hearing from conservatives. 🤔
oce 🐆
in reply to Diva (she/her) • • •jollyroberts
in reply to realcaseyrollins • • •TORFdot0
in reply to Droid • • •Andrew
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3 dogs in a trenchcoat
in reply to Andrew • • •nothing like that in voyager terms
Andrew
in reply to 3 dogs in a trenchcoat • • •aeharding
in reply to Andrew • • •To be completely honest, if you want a healthy 3rd party app ecosystem, the official UI and backend need to be completely separated with a publicly documented API.
Biggest win with Lemmy, and biggest fluff with kbin. And it shows when it comes to 3rd party app ecosystem. People wanted to build apps for kbin….
jbk
in reply to Droid • • •Blaze (he/him)
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imaqtpie
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •Tbf you're on Lemmy 24/7 so you'll hear about things much earlier than many others. I've also been on Piefed for a minute.
But I've come to understand how slowly knowledge propagates through large numbers of people, at least via this medium. First with the APIcaplyse, when I realized that virtually nobody on reddit had even heard of the API changes, let alone moving to Lemmy. And then on Lemmy itself with various major events/dramas that people were totally unaware of until much later.
Piefed is developing rapidly and seems like a worthy alternative to Lemmy and Mbin. The private voting feature is also really cool.
Private voting has been added to PieFed - sh.itjust.works
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Blaze (he/him)
in reply to imaqtpie • • •No need to be on Lemmy that much, just watching !fedimemes@feddit.uk you would see Piefed mentioned every week
Same here, on !fediverse@lemmy.world
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sunzu2
in reply to imaqtpie • • •Seeding a new spot takes work
Ofiuco
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •Filtered word: nsfw
Yeah but usually it's just "try piefed", with a smug tone so it's kind of hard to take people seriously.
Aside from that, adoption becomes a hassle for everything fediverse due to the whole pick your server thing, I went from fmhy to nsfw to dbzero to cafe... I'd be so happy if picking a server would not require so much trial and error.
Blaze (he/him)
in reply to Ofiuco • • •What drove you from dbzer0 to cafe, blocking ml?
It takes trial and then error because it's user depend, some people might have gone the opposite, from cafe to dbzer0
Ofiuco
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •Yeah, ml and hex.
Too much mexican goverment propaganda and getting swarmed by those users to defend it, is not a good time.
I know, and it's a pain... And it will always be a pain.
That's also what discourages me from trying piefed, having to server jump until I find a decent one again.
SharkAttak
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •Looks like a pretty nice and standard Lemmy visualizer.
shawn1122
in reply to Droid • • •ProdigalFrog
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OpenStars
in reply to ProdigalFrog • • •[Feature Request] Lemmy API combatibilty so we can use lemmy apps
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db0
in reply to OpenStars • • •OpenStars
in reply to db0 • • •Ah, so sorry to hear that! I got excited to hear that you were excited to work on it too... 😛
Thank you for telling me so I won't spread misinformation about it. I hope you get to where you have more time irl soon - whether you choose to spend it on that topic, on Lemmy at all, or touch grass or sth else instead (our health is important!!!). Take good care of yourself (and then get back to work! only if/when you want to ofc:-P).
db0
in reply to OpenStars • • •OpenStars
in reply to db0 • • •jollyroberts
in reply to shawn1122 • • •OpenStars
in reply to jollyroberts • • •[Feature Request] Lemmy API combatibilty so we can use lemmy apps
Codeberg.orgjollyroberts
in reply to OpenStars • • •This code: codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/b…
Its mostly freamon and rimu working on that part. Iirc its meant to be lemmy api compatible, but i think there are some adaptations needed to accomadate the piefed way differences.
Freamon got a fork of a lemmy app to sort-of work back in september (https://matrix.to/#/!NVUzKiFppMtECaxHQm:matrix.org/$KJqJfus8DVy-B64AC8uWEQ9oiGsRA04AReRF-05nQYA?via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de&via=jeena.net) so the alpha api stuff has been coming in since then.
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OpenStars
in reply to jollyroberts • • •BonerMan
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hendrik
in reply to smeg • • •smeg
in reply to hendrik • • •I think that's how Lemmy works too
hendrik
in reply to smeg • • •smeg
in reply to hendrik • • •MBM
in reply to Droid • • •jollyroberts
in reply to MBM • • •Yes. I added that myself a couple months ago 😎
edit: you have to export your lemmy user settings. that comes down as a .json file. Then you make a piefed user, and there is an import settings in the piefed user profile.
it will also attempt to import any blocks/bans of users/communities you had in the lemmy settings. But if the instance of piefed you are on does not 'l\know' about those users/communities it wont add them to bans list. But of course that means the community in question is not federated to the instance you are on, so half-dozen-of-one-six-of-the-other really.
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mesamune
in reply to jollyroberts • • •mesamune
in reply to Droid • • •Akesi Seli
in reply to mesamune • • •OpenStars
in reply to Akesi Seli • • •Yes really. Here's an example - see the communities at the top, and hashtags at the bottom.
On second thought, that's not a fantastic example of categories, so here and here are better ones.
There's a lot that is not yet implemented in PieFed, like no preview feature for writing messages or user tagging (e.g. @openstars@piefed.social does not send me a notification), yet it already has several features that Lemmy does not - it's so exciting to watch it develop!😀
obi waaa....tf?
piefed.socialmesamune
in reply to OpenStars • • •OpenStars
in reply to mesamune • • •Blaze (he/him)
in reply to OpenStars • • •OpenStars
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •The reason my first example wasn't a good one was that this meme community (!tech_memes@lemmy.world) wasn't part of the organized hierarchy of Home -> Topics -> Chilling -> Memes, but rather the generic Home -> Communities (as in, all of them in aggregate) -> Technology Memes@lemmy.world. So yeah, it's a very new community, although !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca is older but the same happens with it too. Therefore I assume that it requires an admin approval to bundle these "Topics" together, and it definitely doesn't strike me as something that an individual user could put together.
Then again, someone (perhaps you? or me?) could send requests to the admin to add communities to topic areas, or perhaps modify the codebase directly if it were placed into a file and people granted access (whereupon once again, the admin would have to approve - although in this case a mechanism would also be needed to assess the differences and apply them).
Anyway, there's a LOT of polish that PieFed lacks, and this doesn't even crack the top half imho, next to things like user mentions (@openstars@piefed.social) and Notifications properly taking you to the actual thing that you are being notified about (a goodly fraction of the time it does not, right now.
On the other hand, Lemmy has no such thing as "Categories" or "Topics" of any kind so... anything that PieFed has along these lines is surely better than the nothing that exists in that regard there, right?
Cris
in reply to OpenStars • • •Thank you very much for taking the time to explain where things are at for folks!
I'll have to wait and see if an Android client that supports it shows up, it looks really neat!
OpenStars
in reply to Cris • • •You are most welcome:-).
An app? Apparently an API is in development for it, but it's still in alpha stage. Even so, there's a bunch of new features in PieFed that Lemmy does not have, such as Categories of Communities, so in some ways it would be a downgrade to use an app.
I just use Firefox to access PieFed.social, and it works fine. Well, mostly, bc even though PieFed has things that Lemmy lacks, it lacks some polish compared to the Lemmy web UI that has had more development work put into it. This is where an app would come in handy - if you didn't need all the new features that PieFed offers and just want Lemmy without the "Lemmy" part:-). (And didn't want to use Mbin, which iirc also lacks an API and thus ability to access via an app.)
Edit: One cool thing is that PieFed is written in Python rather than Rust, so the development process should move forward more quickly since more people know the former language while the latter is reportedly quite difficult. And another cool thing is that the developers are SUPER responsive:-).
PieFed - Explore Anything, Discuss Everything.
piefed.socialBlaze (he/him)
in reply to OpenStars • • •That's why I'm saying it's not personal multi communities, which is something people are definitely looking forward (most upvoted Lemmy GitHub issue)
I remember discussing personal multicommunities with @rimu@piefed.social a while ago, at the time it was not a priority for Piefed, maybe they'll revisit in the future.
OpenStars
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •Blaze (he/him)
in reply to Akesi Seli • • •fruitycoder
in reply to mesamune • • •blue_berry
in reply to mesamune • • •jagged_circle
in reply to mesamune • • •Can I aggregate all threads that link to the same URL so I can view all comments on that URL in one page?
Ideally across all instances of mastodon and Lemmy and others?
SorteKanin
in reply to mesamune • • •Chozo
in reply to Droid • • •OpenStars
in reply to Chozo • • •pewgar_sia
in reply to Droid • • •pewgar_seemsimandroid
in reply to pewgar_sia • • •yep, it show's under 1 day on wefwef/voyager.
i think I'll still stay on lemmy.
pewgar_seemsimandroid
in reply to pewgar_seemsimandroid • • •@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone
they have a theme of the colours of the trans flag, Steal?
Ada
in reply to pewgar_seemsimandroid • • •pewgar_seemsimandroid
in reply to Ada • • •OpenStars
in reply to pewgar_sia • • •On my account I use the (dark) theme Card Shadow. I had an issue with it where I needed to disable the Dark Reader extension in Firefox. Lemmy ignored that but it actively messed up PieFed, though after disabling it, PieFed works perfectly for me.
piefed.social/communities has a create local and add remote buttons that look like they would create communities, though I did not text them out.
Edit: and the Create Local option has a "local only" checkbox, i.e. the default being to share the newly created community with Lemmy and Mbin instances via the ActivityPub protocol.
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piefed.socialsecret300
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