Bluesky post by @gabboman.at.app.wafrn.net saying: "Thanks a lot to @rudyfraser.com for hosting the blacksky PDS. After confirmating thatis ok, wafrn now uses blacksky's relay! In the next update other wafrns may also use the relay"
As a non-techy person, I was under the impression from lots of fedi folks that it would either cost a fortune or otherwise be quite impractical to completely divorce ATProto from bluesky itself. However, as a WAFRN enjoyer, Gabbo seems to really know what he's doing, and he actually prefers ATProto over AP... What's the actual deal here?? Is it easier than expected somehow?
A lot of people's research about bluesky is just the "How decentralised is bluesky really?" article by Christine lemmer-webber. While the article was good at the time, and still has some relevant parts, a lot has changed since then.
Namely, relays got cheaper to run (about $30 a month). Right now the problem is that everyone uses bluesky's infrastructure (and PDS migration is a bit spotty, but bluesky is working on that).
Also: AP is pain. The spec was rushed and doesn't include a lot of key details. Atproto was better thought out (at least in my opinion).
Hadn't heard of wafrn until seeing it on f-droid this morning but I might give it a try, a tumblr-like platform would be nice since tumblr seems to have given up on using ActivityPub.
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в ответ на Remy Rose • • •A lot of people's research about bluesky is just the "How decentralised is bluesky really?" article by Christine lemmer-webber.
While the article was good at the time, and still has some relevant parts, a lot has changed since then.
Namely, relays got cheaper to run (about $30 a month).
Right now the problem is that everyone uses bluesky's infrastructure (and PDS migration is a bit spotty, but bluesky is working on that).
Also: AP is pain. The spec was rushed and doesn't include a lot of key details. Atproto was better thought out (at least in my opinion).
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в ответ на Remy Rose • • •I saw it mentioned in this Cory Doctorow article a week or two back about some of his issues with bluesky, but he mentions here that the cost has came down from tens of millions a year down to tens of dollars a month
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Pluralistic: Bluesky creates the world’s weirdest, hardest-to-understand binding arbitration clause (15 Aug 2025) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
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в ответ на Remy Rose • • •Pretty cool. I won't get too excited until Bluesky (the company) is less than 90% of ATProto. Even mastodon.social is only like 27% of AP.
I'd be afraid of one company having too much power over the whole network.
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