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We hereby challenge _all_ other messaging apps, FOSS or not, to provide a more convenient private onboarding experience than #deltachat

1. Install app
2. "Create new profile"
3. Enter nick name, tap "Agree and continue"
4. Tap "+" and "new contact" and provide/scan qr code/link

Voila! A secure private chat, familiar to those coming from Whatsapp or Telegram (without "AI", with #a11y).

Note: chat identities are private and can not be queried or discovered. Servers keep no track or metadata

Эта запись была отредактирована (3 нед. назад)
в ответ на Delta Chat

@Delta Chat are underlying servers dynamic so people get different ones? Otherwise you'll end up on huge single point of failure.
в ответ на Andrey [0xdc, 0x09];

@darkcat09 @shuro we are working on randomizing onboarding to the growing set of chatmail relays. See also chaos.social/@delta/1153621448…
в ответ на Delta Chat

@Delta Chat this likely won't help much against censorship but is certainly welcome for other reasons. So I get it right that it will be possible to migrate between servers?

@Andrey [0xdc, 0x09];

в ответ на Delta Chat

@shuro As I understand, there are non-disclosed chatmail servers in Russia? But if the server addresses were to be disclosed, they could be shut down by the authorities? This is obviously a dilemma...
в ответ на Kalle Kniivilä

@Kalle Kniivilä sadly our censors are not completely dumb and run device farms to detect even undisclosed servers which apps connect to one way or another. This way they managed to render Tor practically non-functional without private bridge servers as all public ways to distribute them eventually lead to blocks. So it doesn't matter much 🙁

@Delta Chat

в ответ на Шуро

@shuro Hm, so the only viable solution, at least short term, would then be to use ordinary mail servers like Yandex? Until those too are blocked in one way or other...
в ответ на Kalle Kniivilä

@Kalle Kniivilä right now smaller services seen to be the best choice as large services like Yandex or Mail.ru don't work with DeltaChat well. I am not sure if the reason is censorship or just they don't like constant stream of encrypted mail they can't parse with their analytics but it is unreliable.

Also some foreign mail servers can be blocked by large mail providers on mail transport level - although these are mostly "protected mail services" like Tutanota and not used for DC anyway.

@Delta Chat

в ответ на Шуро

@shuro I'm using Tuta for my own domain. Does that mean my mail to users in Russia will be blocked? Or only that users in Russia cannot log in to Tuta?

🤔

в ответ на Kalle Kniivilä

@Kalle Kniivilä it is not centralized common occurrence but some large mail providers like mail.ru were quietly blocking mail flow to Tutanota and Proton mail. It is not on ISP level though.

AFAIK there are no concrete "legal" grounds for it and it is intermittent but still.

@Delta Chat

в ответ на Crazy Pony

@crazy_pony

1) there are bridges ("matterdelta") which provide interop with Matrix, XMPP, Telegrram, ssh and anything that Matterbridge provides. It doesn't preserve end-to-end encryption and so bridging bot choice is tricky.

2) There are growing efforts around 3rd party #chatmail clients chatmail.at/clients. Interoperability is "free" between all chatmail clients (#deltachat being the prominent one). Unlike Signal we welcome third parties to the party 😀

в ответ на Limping

@limping do you know of any new hackable kaios devices by any chance? my nokia 8000 4g finally died
в ответ на D-113CR

@D_113CR no, I have not used any kaios device yet 🙁
But I am going to purchase one. It suppose to be useful for strong corporate restrictions (only simple phones without camera).
в ответ на Limping

@limping sadly I don't believe there are any such models, you'd have to remove the camera module yourself if it isn't part of the mainboard

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