Ебанулись, наверно, дальнобои, которые баки зимой отогревают 😉 Но тут неужели нельзя было хоть немного пожарообезопасить. Ты следишь, но делать-то в случае ЧП что будешь?
Евгения Стрелецкая: Всем парням, которые боятся иметь лучшую девушку Ролик во мне откликнулся, потому что во время последнего общения с дамой я тоже испытывал тревогу из-за того, что у этой дамы всё хорошо в жизни, и мне надо быть намного лучше, чем я есть, чтобы ей соответствовать, несмотря на то, что она говорит, что её устраивает общение со мной.
Впрочем, тут ещё есть момент отложенного равновесия, скажем так. Часто люди всё же хотят, чтобы партнёр либо дополнял их чем-то, либо соответствовал (т.е. чтобы было больше того же самого). И хотя на фоне прошлых неудач люди склонны понижать планку, "лишь бы не наркоман и любил", со временем это выровняется и дефицит будет ощущаться.
С другой стороны, это не повод не пробовать. Это как кредит - жить в долг не получится, но можно взять и использовать для построения чего-то большего, чтобы выйти в ноль.
Достижение разблокировано: купил квартиру в историческом районе Москвы, рядом с метро и парком, да ещё и за свои.
- Слышь, ты же просто потратил все деньги на пятиэтажку в Филях. - Но ведь лучше кирпичной пятиэтажки так ничего и не научились строить. - Да.
Бывший владелец на деньги от продажи купил семье квартиру побольше. Тоже в пятиэтажке. Да и у меня это третья. Когда-нибудь они кончатся, а пока это как со старыми ThinkPad, автомобилями и инструментами советской эпохи - если кажется, что не на что менять, то и не надо. Пока пусть будут зелёные дворы, выбежать на улицу за одну минуту, слышать с балкона что говорят у подъезда, тепло батарей и открытые окна зимой и летом, выносить мусор чаще, газ на кухне, ванна в ванной, коты, деревья выше окон и светящаяся Цитадель Сити где-то за ними, которая хочет донести, что аномалия - это уже мы.
Да, особенно это слышимости к соседям касается. После кирпичного дома, даже простенького, оказавшись в гостях часто вспоминается советский анекдот: "да у вас никак мыши завелись? - нет, не волнуйтесь, это соседи едят салат" 😀
Да на самом деле посмотрел всю Москву по критериям "не муравейник", "2-4 этажи", "рядом какая-то зелень", "есть поблизости нормальные магазины", "метро пешком" и вариантов оказалось не так много. Не пятиэтажки - так панели, где есть свои странности планировки, качество постройки тоже сомнительное, плюс у панельной застройки крайне депрессивные дворы в своей массе (обычно это автомобильные проезды сразу у подъездов, за которыми забор детсада/школы и всё свободное место забито тачками в два слоя).
Относительно новые дома, что попадают под эти критерии, слишком дороги. Пусть ещё постоят.
Попадаются точечные исключения (Чертаново, например, Молодёжная), но все оказались неподходящими - там опека, тут свежее наследство с толпой потенциальных претендентов, в одном месте всё было отлично, но владелец имел три уголовных дела за мошенничество с недвижимостью, в которых был признан виновным, что несколько смутило. Если бы не некоторые личные обстоятельства, плюс недавние приключения рубля, можно было бы ещё половить. Но в последние месяцы рынок небольших квартир нервно замер, скажем так.
Белки в цепочке парков Фили есть. Ещё мыши есть 😀 Больше никого не видел.
Солемера нет, надо бы приобрести. Но вообще для питья стал воду в автоматах наливать, качество не проверял, но вкус неплохой и налёт в чайнике не образовывается совсем.
Ну, не всё подряд, конечно же. Но есть, например, кое-что из слесарки, напильники там всякие - стало сюрпризом, что купить такое же в обычном строймаге уже не так просто, хотя ничего особенного они из себя не представляют.
Это дошло (пришло 2 дек в 14:37), предыдущие два не видел. Загадочное.
Нервно замер - это ощущение от наблюдений за объявлениями (с риэлторами связываться не хотелось, поэтому всё самостоятельно). Начали где-то с весны, всё лето и осень были активные просмотры. И чувствовалось, что как инфополе напрягается - тут активность спадает и часть объявлений вообще пропадает. Сложилось впечатление, что в моменты напряжений покупатели сметают самые пуленепробиваемые варианты (т.е. где адекватная цена и нет разных интересных моментов), а остальное наоборот замирает или убирается с продажи. новое почти не появляется. Видимо, одни сильнее сомневаются в покупке, если есть повод, другие задумываются о будущем росте цен и не продешевят ли сейчас. Обычно цены заряжают с запасом (10-20% сверху легко) и постепенно скидывают по 100-200-300 тысяч, иногда буквально через день - но это в норме, а в моменты потрясений перестают.
В принципе, оно и понятно - если не готов пусть в ход сумму от продажи прямо сейчас, но сохранить её непросто, в бетоне как-то понадёжнее.
К зиме такие моменты пошли всё чаще 😀 А насчёт изменений не знаю, но что-то мне подсказывает, что цены хоть частично, но скорректируются под инфляцию.
Переезжать пока рано, надо провести небольшой ремонт, что всегда проще, когда квартира пустая 😀
@lil Как, там и входящие не ходят иногда? Я знаю о проблемах с исходящими, но повторить не могу. По-хорошему, надо бы сесть с админом Плеромы и посмотреть дебаг, но пока не набрал энергии на это 😀
Пока, кстати, можешь добавить и тегать эту учетку.
Про цены: я уверен, что цена аренды отразится на стоимости объектов, если продолжит расти. Сильная инфляция - тоже. Мы имеем то и другое, дойдёт ли до критической точки - не знаю, будем оптимистами 😀 Но неявное повышение цен на интересующих меня вариантах я видел - это когда выставляют на 15-20% дороже (это норма), но срезают цену потом гораздо медленнее, чем это было летом.
Не загадочное, а забагованное 😀 Между Friendica и Pleroma/Akkoma. Мне не верится, что баг чисто в моём сервере, думаю, с другими плеромами тоже есть проблемы федерации. Я, признаться, раньше чуть-чуть обижалась, что ты то отвечаешь на мои комментарии и вопросы, то игноришь их... 😀 как-то рандомно. Потом увидела, что от Андрея (у него ж тоже Френдика) мне не все сообщения долетают. И стало понятно, что "message has been sent" ещё не значит, что на другом конце её получат. Подозреваю, что ишью в смене уровня видимости. Например, ты пишешь публичный пост, я жму ответить и у меня по дефолту стоит visibility unlisted, я в таком режиме пощу комент. Ты на него отвечаешь публично, я отвечаю с иной visibility... и где-то в процессе что-то ломается в федерации. 🙁
Я тоже мечтала переехать, но пока что не срослось. Полгода мониторю рынок. Ощущение, что уже примерно год как квартир на вторичке стало меньше. Исходя из последних диких слухов о заморозке вкладов, по идее все, у кого есть хоть какие-то суммы, должны сейчас побежать на панике их вкладывать в недвижку. А вот про рост цен на вторичке сомневаюсь, куда уж больше? Наоборот многие опускаются, тк покупателей стало меньше. Говорят, и аренда сильно выросла именно поэтому. Купить своё без ипотеки больше денег нет, но народа едет по-прежнему много, жить где-то надо - растёт спрос на аренду.
Сначала над штаб-квартирой Т-Банка, у которого в тот день начались торги под первым однобуквенным тикером, была запущена проекция буквы «Т». Идею быстро подхватили и другие бренды, чьи логотипы также появились над ночной Москвой.
Сначала над штаб-квартирой Т-Банка, у которого в тот день начались торги под первым однобуквенным тикером, была запущена проекция буквы «Т». Идею быстро подхватили и другие бренды, чьи логотипы также появились над ночной Москвой.
Днём в этих местах никуда не деться от шума со стороны очередной бессмысленной автотрассы, но ночью (поздним вечером) и в дождь рад любому человеку - после ручья наткнулись на огромный костёр, и даже были приглашены погреться, но надо было спешить на электричку.
Уважаемые товарищи федивёрсеры, Пожалуйста, поделитесь фотографиями своих рабочих окружений линукс и расскажите нимного о них. Это мой второй пост об этом в федивёрсе (первый сможете посмотреть либо по ссылке, либо в пости, к которому прикреплён данный пост /зависит с какой платформы сидите в федивёрсе/). Решил обновить информацию в конце года (так-сказать) CC:@rf@mastodon.ml @Russia@3zi.ru @ru@lor.sh @tech@mastodon.ml RE: pixelfed.ru/p/dimitar_salin/66…
Уважаемые федижители,
Пожалуйста, поделитесь со мной как вы оформляете рабочие столы на своих компьютерах. На фото в посте вы видите оформление на моём десктопе на втором компьютере, который работает под управлением Убунту 22.
"Пользуясь моментом, хочу передать привет тем, кто так же как и я, пользуется моментом."
Вот с такой небольшой шутки хотел бы поделится, что набросал небольшой скриптик-экспортер для #yggdrasil. Нужно для мониторинга в Prometheus/Grafana, если кому интересно. Скрипт настолько прост, что любой сможет поменять таймаут, забиндить на нужный адрес и так далее.
@3draven Я бы это рассматривал как общаю локалку на IPv6. Меня спасает тем, что я в пути в любой момент могу с ноута забежать на нужные сервера, в том числе и которые за NAT-ом. Есть ресурсы внутри сети, но очень мало, поэтому как преимущество это не расписываю. 😀
Решил значит выпустить себе UnionPay у РосСельХозБанка
Зачем? Бесплатная, долларовая, лишней не будет, может из-под санкций выведут
Итак, заказал карту на сайте, в самое близкое отделение, но у них есть тупизм на сайте - на карте отмечены отделения, но не написан их режим работы (моё оказалось с 10 до 19 работает в будни) Вошёл в грешную жизнь отделения в 18:30
Ещё никогда не имел ничего общего с РСХБ, ну то есть имел, когда жена пыталась перевести мне 50к, которые заблокировали на несколько дней и никакие звонки и уговоры службы поддержки не помогали разблокировать транзакцию
Автомат по выдаче талончиков не работал (я решил сфоткать)
В этот же момент выбежала тётенька, руководитель отделения и сказала, что я уже ничего не смогу получить (тут я сразу понял, что банк надёжный) Потом случился диалог такого содержания: - Вы не успеете ничего сделать - Мне просто карту получить, ещё полчаса рабочего времени, давайте постараемся - Перед вами ещё 6 человек и они тоже не успеют ничего сделать, ведь время каждой операции минут 40 ....тут из очереди ушло 4 человека..... - Смотрите, народу всё меньше - я подожду
После моих слов, руководитель просто закрыла входную дверь на замок (25 минут до окончания рабочего дня) - меня несколько напряг такой поворот событий, но окай
Пока сидел, скачал приложеньку, поразвлекал ребёнка какой-то девчули, которая пришла тоже карту получать
Я конечно получил карту, успел, буквально в 19:00 вышел
НО! 1. Мне показалось, что это всё похоже на Сбер начала нулевых 2. Я не знаю, как они выживают, но есть ощущение, что отношение к людям скотское (ну хотя ок, Сельхоз банк)
This Week in Plasma brings disableable KWin rules, less confusing flatpak info in Discover, a more comprehensible icon for wireless headphones, and a flurry of other UI improvements and nice new features.
This week there was a flurry of UI polishing work and a nice new feature to go along with the usual background level of bug-fixing. Some of the changes are quite consequential, being minor pain points for years.
Скриншот текста. Изображение содержит список пунктов, представленных в виде маркированного списка. Каждый пункт начинается с кода, за которым следует краткое описание. Текст выровнен по левому краю и написан белым цветом на тёмном фоне. Список, вероятно, описывает исправления безопасности или обновления программного обеспечения. Шрифт моноширинный, что обеспечивает равномерное расстояние между символами.
📝 Текст на картинке
New ESR version. - Security fixes: + CVE-2024-11691: Out-of-bounds write in Apple GPU drivers via WebGL + CVE-2024-11692: Select list elements could be shown over another site + CVE-2024-11693: Download Protections were bypassed by .library-ms files on Windows + CVE-2024-11694: CSP Bypass and XSS Exposure via Web Compatibility Shims + CVE-2024-11695: URL Bar Spoofing via Manipulated Punycode and Whitespace Characters + CVE-2024-11696: Unhandled Exception in Add-on Signature Verification + CVE-2024-11697: Improper Keypress Handling in Executable File Confirmation Dialog + CVE-2024-11698: Fullscreen Lock-Up When Modal Dialog Interrupts Transition on macOS + CVE-2024-11699: Memory safety bugs fixed in Firefox 133, Firefox ESR 128.5, and Thunderbird 128.5 * Wed Oct 30 2024 Ajrat Makhmutov
Сначала этот банан прилепили и продали как произведение искусства за мегатонны денег. Уже хорошо.
Потом этот банан кто-то сожрал в рамках "флешмоба", но поскольку права на это не имел, то банан вернули. Вообще, очевидно, что этот банан и так приходилось обновлять раз в пару дней.
И вот теперь, по всей видимости, он сожран окончательно. Т.е. чтобы банан считался сожранным официально и окончательно, для этого нужна лицензия за эти самые шесть миллионов 😀
Сразу вспомнилась выставка современного искусства, куда меня занесло ещё совсем мелким, там как раз были представлены вот такие художники.
Прошли, не побоюсь этого слова, десятилетия, а перед глазами так и стоит одна картина маслом, где грубыми мазками были намалёваны пять голых задниц в смелых лиловых, фиолетовых и алых тонах, а особый акцент художник поставил налеплением пучков настоящих волос в их промежности. Вот она, сила искусства!
Эскимо в шоколадной глазури и фольгированном пакетике от просто куска мороженого принципиально не отличается и не превратилось в стейк, но потребительские свойства у него несколько другие.
Everyone needs to read that post. 99% of Lemmy/Mastodon users do not know how incredibly highly self-selected they are for a level of tech engagement that is orders of magnitude beyond what the vast majority of people are willing to engage in.
I find it the height of irony that you have submitted this duplicate post to both of these "c/Fediverse" communities:-). This is the very type of thing that is going to confuse people. Like "why is there a @CyberTailor@beehaw.org, a @CyberTailor@Lemmy.World, a @CyberTailor@lemmynsfw.com and others, but they might be the same person - and yet they might not - and then some of them post to !Fediverse@lemmy.world, while others may post to !Fediverse@lemmy.ml - so like users then, are those also the same person? or community or whatever? Or are they always different ones, and if communities are always different, then why aren't the users always different too?"
Face it, the experience on Lemmy.World is close to that of the centralized Reddit, but everywhere else it is not even close. e.g. my post here has 193 upvotes (and 2 downvotes), while the original says 186, but here it only has 98, and here it has none, nor any comments either.
We are a loose federation of instances - we are virtually nothing like any email system that I have ever used, where various portions of the same message show up - or not - depending on which email system you try to access the same message from (afaik, that's not even a thing - you have the sender and the recipient and that's it?). The reason people struggle to understand the email analogy, imho, is bc it doesn't work, and we should go back to the loose federation of instances idea bc that's what we truly are.
If you tell someone that fedi instances are like email providers and that your instance is transfem.social, that creates three expecations in your audience:
1)The main, or possibly only, way to access your fedi account on a desktop is through the transfem.social website.
2)The main, or possibly only, way to access your fedi account on a smartphone is through the transfem.social app. This app is completely separate from the apps that could be used to access a fedi account on another instance.
3)The primary difference between transfem.social and other fedi instances is the UI of the website and app.
Frankly, I don’t think this is that big of a deal. First introduce them to an instance, then once they figure that out, show them the apps and other ways to access that instance.
If you want to get non-techy users, then there is absolutely no need to even use the word fediverse or to try to explain what any of this means. If you want to help a friend get onboard, just send them a link to sign up on the same server that you use, or a nice general purpose server. That's it. They sign up, they use it, and THEN they can start to learn about fediverse shit if they care to.
Yes. You can use it without understanding how it works behind the scenes. At some point, they'll run into a situation where it is helpful to learn some part of how the fediverse works and then they can ask about it, generating more content and interaction along the way
"you know how you can't talk to someone on Twitter.com from facebook.com? But you can email from your @gmail.com to someone with an @yahoo.com address?
That's the difference, federated social media is like email in this way."
I'm mostly sure even my elderly parents understood it when I said it...
And you know how, when you subscribe to a mailing list, you will only receive new mail sent to the list if your server happens to “federate” with the sender’s server?
I’m not talking about blocking, but about being unable to see all replies to a post unless you open it on its home instance, which happens all the time on Mastodon.
I think people can handle a simple series of instructions, like (1) download the Voyager for Lemmy app, (2) click the middle button, then click...
What they likely get confused about is the plethora of choices, especially when they aren't even sure that they want to join yet.
At the risk of bringing up unwanted drama, 100% of the time whenever I mention Lemmy to someone, they have admonished me for having done so. But putting myself into their shoes one day, I did a Google search (🤮) for "Lemmy", and aside from the singer, the top hit to an actual instance is... surprisingly to me, lemmy.ml. Next I note that the default search method there is "Local", not "All". NO WONDER they were telling me how politically "extremist" it (Lemmy) is! They see NONE of the posts from Lemmy.World, sh.itjust.works, etc., unless they are submitted to a community on lemmy.ml. Instead, what someone would see by default is "death to landlords" and all the other posts promoting the violent upheaval of Western society, as ofc capitalism is to blame for literally everything (well I mean...), except somehow only the Western variant is in the wrong and everything done by the likes of Russia or China or North Korea is absolutely fine.
Here's an old example I just happened to have handy:
(setting aside truth or falsehood, it definitely has a bias to it, as in both sides were equal, and yes this was prior to the USA election)
The #2 search result by DuckDuckGo btw is Lemmy.World (the #1 is ofc the musician:-), probably bc it has ~80% of all Lemmy users on it, so that is appropriate.
We need to put ourselves into their shoes, not our own as if we were ourselves on the other side of that conversation, but appreciate how they will approach the issues. And the methods used by more mainstream people differ from ours.
Either that, or accept that we are strictly another forum community used chiefly by Linux users, and that we will never be more than that.
What they likely get confused about is the plethora of choices, especially when they aren’t even sure that they want to join yet.
Then we need to provide them a single recommendation
While we are talking, a small update on lemmy.cafe: I liked it for a few weeks, but the images stopped showing up properly since a week: lemmy.cafe/post/9986198?scroll…
That link that you sent me, are you still able to see that post? For me it shows an error, like what happens when a post is deleted by the OP, but I wonder if that is what happened or if lemmy.cafe has switched its main announcement community to be local-only, and if that requires a lemmy.cafe account to read, b/c otherwise I don't even know what their main announcement community would even be. It might have gotten deleted entirely and/or merged into graybeard, or statecraft, but both have not had posts for a long time (unless they did and whatever problem is affecting the database lately has messed up new posts in it as well).
Well that's sad.
If I were you I would ask feddit.org to switch their default sort behavior from "Local" to "All" so that it will be a more welcoming experience for the wider Fediverse looking to see memes and such from the likes of Lemmy.World etc. and not just itself.
It at least defederates from 2 of the big 3, though it also defederates from lemmynsfw.com, which I don't know why so many people (from Reddit in particular) insist on having that in their same account but I bet some people will be resistant to it, but oh well.
May I ask though: why not use lemmy.ca as the default recommendation? It has 4.5x the userbase as feddit.org (the same MAU, just 4.5x more accounts total, so I guess a bunch of lurkers or inactive accounts, but it is at least the same size), 5 admins, already has its default sort set to All, doesn't defederate from lemmynsfw.com, and seems to take user feedback e.g. this recent thread questioning whether to refederate with hexbear.net but based on user feedback deciding overwhelmingly to not. And especially if people in Reddit tend to be from the USA, it would be geographically closer and not confusing to e.g. first describe things in German, then in English.
Hopefully the issues with lemmy.cafe are temporary, but on the other hand communication about such matters is just as important as not causing them in the first place, plus if it's been a whole week and it's still that way... that does not bode well for the future.
I wonder if that is what happened or if lemmy.cafe has switched its main announcement community to be local-only,
I just checked, it is local indeed
May I ask though: why not use lemmy.ca as the default recommendation?
The .ca domain and the logo could deter non Canadians by giving the impression that the instance is geared towards Canadians, which is partially true when you look at the sidebar
it’s geared toward Canadians, hosted in Canada, and run by Canadians. It is, however, not at all restricted to Canadians, or Canadian culture/topics/etc. All are welcome!
I could understand why non-Canadians would rather join another instance
How very interesting... beyond lemmy.cafe then, this is probably how Lemmy implements "local-only" in general, restricting access purely to those who have accounts on that instance. I would have hoped for a more nuanced take than simply seeing an error screen for me who lacks that, but it is what it is.
The .ca domain and the logo could deter non Canadians by giving the impression that the instance is geared towards Canadians
Yeah, I get that and thought the same, but otoh at least it is a straightforward and easy-to-understand bias, explicitly stated outright (unlike e.g. "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers"). If we were to follow that logic though, the rather high predominance of the German language over and above the English one, the latter of which in particular often is left out, is also quite off-putting to me. e.g. see this page: feddit.org/c/fediverse, which does not have a German explanation first and then an English one, but instead offers purely a German one and then... that's it, it stops there. English-speaking people are not only after-thoughts, but often not thought of at all. Which to be clear is fine btw - it's their server and they can do as they please with it - but I would not want to use it as the front face for all for all of Lemmy, for that reason, especially if that is a kind of signal that they are sending that similarly to lemmy.ca others are "welcomed" but they aren't the primary focus. And then the default sort being set to Local rather than All just compounds the issue all the more - other instances are again an after-thought, rather than the primary focus.
In contrast, "Canadian" is at least North American, but more importantly so long as it is using English rather than French, lemmy.ca is not as off-putting as feddit.org is, imho. Also, after the elections, A LOT of more liberal/less conservative (including "centrist") minded people I bet are going to be okay with a Canadian social media rather than a "murica" one.
Especially when the choices are so limited. - lemmy.sdf.org has only a single admin - beehaw.org has very restrictive moderation practices, and they do not want a wider audience increasing their workload further - Lemmy.today does not defederate from... anything it would seem (and I confirmed that I can access ChapoTrapHouse from it, so it is not merely missing a Blocked tab in its instances list, it's real) - startrek.website is themed and consistently has many federation issues, probably stemming from hardware ones (its uptime is not ideal) - ttrpg.network similarly and significantly worse reported uptime - discuss.online is quite nice actually, and I still use it as my primary "Lemmy" instance, though it only has 2 admins, who were balancing running it and trying to develop Sublinks, though it does not defederate from hexbear and that's a dealbreaker right there (imho), much less lemmy.ml - and then everything else after that, sorted by MAU and restricting country=United States on lemmy.fediverse.observer/list, is at least half as small as lemmy.cafe
I think we should keep Discuss.Online in the back of our heads moving forwards - although otoh it might become an unstable/experimental instance if it were to suddenly shift over to use Sublinks ahead of any other Lemmy instance. Otherwise, the only advantage of e.g. lemmy.ca or feddit.org is that they both defederate from lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net, which lemm.ee has a firm resistance to ever doing.
It looks like you have an account at lemmy.ca - did you like it? It seems to offer roughly the same uptime as feddit.org.
One other aspect against recommending lemmy.ca as the one recommended instance is that some Canadian users would prefer the instance to stay local: lemmy.ca/post/23600231
Which makes complete sense to be honest, speaking English does not mean that any English speaking user should come to their server while it's specifically country-named and focused.
I tagged you on my other post - I need to focus more on my job right now, but I'm glad that I can help out that much so that you don't have to do literally everything:-). It was only after that when I finally discovered this post (b/c previously I had used a browser search for the word hexbear but that only looked at titles), and yet even so I think I covered what jgrim was asking for - actual reasons to do so, not just "hurr me no likey dose others over der".
If Discuss.Online (DO) were to defederate even only hexbear.net, much less lemmy.ml, I think it would work fantastically well as an option.
That argument pushed against Lemmy.ca (CA) though - I do not agree... mostly. For one, that instance has literally ~1200 MAUs, yet only 21 upvoted that post? And even then, the top community on that instance, mentioned also in that post, is !pcgaming@lemmy.ca with 4.84K MAUs, which obviously is going to show up quite often in the All feed. The solution to that though is to either browse by Subscribed, or else continue to browse by All yet after blocking unwanted communities. If they had wanted to remain Canada-focused, well that ship has already sailed, long ago.
And it is not the only such community either - !fbstolencontent@lemmy.ca (1.79K) and !politicalmemes@lemmy.ca (1.64K) and !fediverselore@lemmy.ca (1.58K) all are geared more towards international (than Canada-only) audiences. That person's argument was a nonstarted even back then, and since then they have definitely lost - though they can (re-)make the Fediverse into anything that they want by configuring their tools to show only what they are (most) interested in. Tbf, otoh there are also some posts that have a tiny bit of an anti-usa stance, like this one: lemmy.ca/post/33447213, though I would hope not a deal-breaker.
The only way to know for sure would be to create a post and ask if the admins were okay with you using their instance as the default recommendation for Redditors to flock to. That would also hold for feddit.org though, or Discuss.Online (if they were amenable to blocking hexbear.net and especially if they would also block lemmy.ml), the latter of which I at least got the ball rolling for you:-).
Reading through their "welcome, new users!" post, I came across this very interesting comment. A lot of comments express similar thoughts. So while I think that DO would be a better match than CA (and I would guess that you agree? again, after HB were defederated), CA would still be a good match overall, imho. Not perfect, but especially considering the lack of any other options.
However, feddit.org (FO?) has even more of an offputting "vibe" imho than CA. First, I mentioned that it sorts by Local rather than All, which exagerates even more the focus on German-speaking than English-speaking ones. While many posts seem attractive to a USA audience - e.g. "‘Would you survive 72 hours?’ Germany and the Nordic countries prepare citizens for possible war" and "History will judge German chancellor Olaf Scholz for not giving Taurus missiles to Ukraine, the country's former foreign minister says", many others would act more as a deterrant e.g. "XXL-Leben: Der Fluch des großen Penis" with pictures of men's bulging packages not marked NSFW, and a post about Georgia but it's the country rather than the US state, but mostly I mean that overall on the front-page feed right now I counted and nearly all of the other posts besides those 2 mentioned above (+1 more) are in German. 4 from iech_iel that have the language embedded in an image so not easily machine translatable to other languages.
And even more so than CA that at least has some non-Canadian communities, the communities on FO are even more German- or EU-specific - the top one being !Europe@feddit.org with 3.87K MAUs, which is a bit smaller than !pcgaming@lemmy.ca with 4.84K, and like even !technik@feddit.org that while not unwelcoming to posts in English, the very name of the community itself looks to be in German, as are a large fraction of the posts therein too. I don't know how receptive to a large influx of English-speaking Reddit users that FO would be... but just purely from looking at the communities and posts that are already there, I don't think it's a good "fit".
To attempt to be crystal clear, obviously the above is all perfectly fine and people on FO can do however they please (and on the international stage, Georgia is a nation/country, not strictly a USA state:-P) - I am talking here strictly about the "fit" for average Americans.
If you aren't too annoyed at a much too long comment, here is part 2 of 2.
I get that you are frustrated with lemmy.cafe, and I whole-heartedly concur that it is for good reasons, but in case it helps, I do think that, based solely on what you've told me here and what I can see, CA might be a significantly better fit to Americans than FO would be. Not that either would be horrible ofc:-), I'm just talking about absolutely minimizing any potential friction.
Though DO would be so much more amazingly a perfect fit, and now that I've found that previous post, I do strongly think that it will happen (even if lemmy.ml is too much to hope for, though neither FO nor CA defed from it anyway). So if I were you I would use CA for now, but then be ready to switch to suggesting DO very soon? 😁 And I hope that I'm helping by saying all of this, rather than coming on too strong like I'm trying to tell you what to do? Rather, I'm trying to emphasize that it is my strong recommendation, as a non-German-speaking American myself perhaps that gives me insight.😀
Thank you for that post on Discuss.online, let's see what the admins say.
Between feddit.org and lemmy.ca, both have their issues indeed. Let's hope Discuss.online can become "the one", but it would be a bit ironic to recommend the one instance managed by people who created an alternative to Lemmy
I am more fearful that as the USA grows more towards fascism that any USA-based instance may become less stable. e.g. if Project 2025 really does outlaw porn, can all of Lemmy be labelled as "porn" due to the presence of a NSFW post or two, and thereby be taken down? Perhaps people wanting to be admins can volunteer their time to help out other instances across the world without owning any instances within the USA borders? Though the need to have spaces where left-leaning people can communicate with one another will grow all the more as a result.
To be, the issue was never that no major instance was USA-based, location of the servers doesn't mean much nowadays. It was more about the fact that no large instance was geared towards USA citizens (a la Lemmy.ca, as we discussed), with a message such as "a USA instance, for USA citizens, but everyone is welcome". That hypothetical server being hosted in Canada or Europe wouldn't have that much of an impact, it was more to be able to have politics, finance, news discussions related to the USA in one place
To clarify why lemmy.ml is one of the first results: it was the first Lemmy instance. It's only the second most populated instance, but I imagine the relative age of the site (5 years, as opposed to lemmy.world's 1 year) has something to do with it.
It also sucks that join-lemmy.org, which comes up before lemmy.ml for me, defaults to recommending random instances. It really ought to recommend making your first account at lemmy.world and switching to a different instance after you've gotten used to the platform. I know it's not ideal to put all our eggs in one basket, and there is a reasonable effort to move communities away from both lemmy.ml and lemmy.world, but for new users it might be kind of confusing seeing people talk about sh.itjust.works and lemmy.dbzer0.com and programming.dev as if they're more or less interchangeable
I get the age requirement - as you say it makes sense - though it makes less sense why it isn't up to date information. Anyway regardless of the why factor it helps me understand where people are coming from when THAT is what they see, which is different than what I do, or what I would see if I personally (who would use DDG rather than Google) would see if trying to look up such a thing today.
I also get why they would want to see an example of a working Lemmy instance, before looking at a website called "join Lemmy" - they aren't interested yet in JOINING Lemmy, or information related to that, until they have seen what(ever) Lemmy IS first.
One correction: lemmy.ml has now fallen to fifth place in terms of MAUs (Monthly Active Users), with only 2165 compared to Lemmy.World's whipping 17195. The second place is lemmynsfw.com with 3288, so definitely a steep drop-off from the #1 spot to all others, then #3 lemm.ee with 2996 and #4 sh.itjust.works with 2392. So even just with respect to these top 5 servers alone, ignoring the entire rest of the Fediverse, lemmy.ml makes up at most 7.7% of the Fediverse, which falls further behind with each server added to the consideration (including the one I am on now:-).
I sorta get the historical argument, but isn't that a bit like saying that an actor is alive bc at one point they were, despite how they are currently dead? Or saying that Russia has not invaded Ukraine, bc at one point that may have been true, though it has not remained true for quite a number of years now. Or saying that Nixon is the President of the United States of America, bc at one point that was legitimately a true fact (yet is not a current one). Google results just seem so hopelessly wrong these days, telling people to put razor blades into their pizza and the like, and that if you stand more than 6 feet away from a nuclear blast you'll be fine to survive it safely. There are REASONS for all of how those answers came about, but it definitely highlights how they - and therefore by extension Google results (tbf the AI ones in those latter cases) - are incorrect. But that is what mainstream normies are most likely to use regardless? (Even if they ignore the AI garbage)
Also, those instances sorta are interchangeable?😛 Somewhat at least, which is by design of the ActivityPub Protocol that anywhere you are, you can access mostly the same content. That said, I like where you are going with that: in one sense they are, if not "the same" then at least they are interconnected, yet in another sense they each have a distinctiveness to them, with unique local content (which if marked "local-only" cannot be accessed from the outside, without an account on that specific instance) making them different from all others. And distinct admin+moderation practices, and account creation procedures, etc.
Less like email and more like a fleet of pirate/free trader ships each passing their messages to all of the others (excepting defederations), but remaining distinctive entities unto themselves with their own flairs and styles. And anyone can spin up their own ship and tap onto the Fediverse network to become one of them.
In my experience, the majority of people doesn't have the slightest clue how mail works. Somehow you type it in and provide it with an address into one of the three indistinguishable fields that are titled "To", " CC", "BCC". And by some black magic it either appears on the screen of the other person. Or it doesn't. That's about the amount of knowledge.
So comparing something to this is kind of meaningless.
As a younger tech person, I definitely don't get a lot about email. It's old and weird and arcane and half it's features that match newer services seem to be built on top of hacks that are enforced through convention alone that will break if I decide I like to format my titles a little differently. Third party clients work, but the main providers, Gmail outlook use some proprietary api to make sure their own works well while everyone else gets stuck with shitty imap. There's endless little incompatibilities. It all just feels like delerict tower held together with miles of duct tape. Oh and I still haven't found a good answer to why calendars are so tied up with email.
Your calendars are tied up with your email because Microsoft Exchange decided to bring that feature to business ages ago and everyone else just copied them. There's nothing preventing you from using third party calendar apps if that's what you want, and there are standard protocols to exchange calendars between services. Your email address probably comes with a calendar by default already so most people just use that, but that's your choice.
As for IMAP, there are a few alternative protocols but desktop mail clients are old people tech anyway. Outlook is just storing your email on their servers for a reason, people don't want an IMAP alternative, they want an app.
I don't really know what inconsistencies email supposedly has compared to other protocols. I use a bridge to join my Signal/WhatsApp/Telegram/etcetera all in one place, and getting a consistent experience is a layer of hell not even email prepared me for. Telegram doesn't do some emoji reactions, WhatsApp doesn't do edits, every messenger needs stickers to be in a specific weird format, and god forbid you try to send files because every service has their own stupid quirks on that. Then there's formatting, every service supports a specific subset of markdown, all incompatible with each other. And NONE of them allow "line of text, image, line of text" as a single message that can be forwarded. Messenger tech is bound to the same restrictions the Linux kernel mailing lists are. Email is a technical miracle in how it works consistly across platforms.
The only comparable protocols I can think of that come close to email are SMS (awful and insecure), MMS (awful and insecure and unreliable), RCS (only usable if you use Android and insecure in all other contexts). Young people don't use email because they've been tricked into other apps, but it it wasn't for the "my parents use it so it sucks" attitude that every teenager develops, email would've replaced so many shitty messengers.
Ironically it is often that way with Lemmy as well, outside of Lemmy.World. You write up a post, maybe it makes it to its destination, maybe it does not (for several days, after which point extremely few people will see it when it suddenly appears, but down among the older content no longer listed as "new"), maybe people write comments into it, maybe they don't but who even knows if you aren't able to see any of them to be able to respond.
This is definitely a monthly or almost weekly occurrence, even if not quite a daily one, though it depends strongly on what instance you are on.
Also, whether it makes it to the destination or not depends on which server you try to view it from.
And I haven't even begun to start into the defederation artifacts yet!?
Right. Learning Lemmy and the Fediverse takes some effort. The onboarding isn't super smooth and flawless... I think we all know this. I'd still like to see a few design changes. I think generally we're headed in the right direction. Albeit kind of slowly.
I haven't noticed any federation hiccups in quite some time. There was some debacle with two updates. But since then it's been forwarding posts within seconds for me. At least on the last two instances I used.
Almost every single one of my posts has had major issues. Even those from other instances. e.g. Rimu messaged me about this one that did not federate for 2-3 days, and consequently was seen by very few people. And here's one from a difference instance that made it to its destination on !tenforward@lemmy.world, but from its originating server I could see none of the comments, and had to respond from a third account involved in that 3-way attempt at communication. (a post talking about such federation issues on that same server) So to be very clear, I am not saying that instances running PieFed software are having issues, but more that the issues are with Lemmy regardless of software type run.
Uh, right. Sorry, I did not notice you were from Piefed... I was talking about the times when we had the borked Lemmy updates... Did you ever debug or resolve your issues? Is there a way to tell something didn't federate? And is this an issue specific to Piefed? Or to the whole Fediverse? I'm not sure if I'm affected. I occasionally check my posts from another account and it always seems okay. But I mean I don't do it very often.
Yes often I've chased it down to some small degree. The one that Rimu messaged me was near a time of great instability on piefed.social and I got a bunch of gateway errors even so much as trying to reach it as a user (having nothing to do with posting I mean). This instance has calmed down a ton since then and works perfectly these days, but things happen from time to time. Likewise the incident with StarTrek.Website that I mentioned and provided a link describing more.
Other occurrences have still other causes - e.g. a few of them in one community seems to have been due to my posts getting "locked". I have no idea why - perhaps the new mod was just fat-fingering the button? I did not ask. But now the vote counts vary GREATLY (192 vs. 183 vs. 98 vs. 0 etc.) depending on which instance you view it from. If you want to test for yourself, a good one to use is piefed.social/post/330559 - though I notice that (fairly recently created) community !tech_memes@lemmy.world does not appear at all on your instance.
The primary cause though was a limitation in how the ActivityPub protocol was implemented in the Lemmy codebase, and not having anticipated that ~80% of the entire Lemmy-based Fediverse would concentrate itself onto a single server, Lemmy.World. So how it works is that any "action" - a post, a comment, an upvote or downvote - will be federated out to all the other instances world-wide at a rate of 1 per second. However, if the ping from the other servers to Lemmy.World is itself a significant approximation of that, then the list of actions to be federated will fall behind and take longer to catch up. Eventually after more than a week it gives up entirely, but in the meantime an action can be delayed for days. Poor Aussie.Zone - geographically distant from the EU - has been really having a hard time of it ( aussie.zone/post/13429731 ).
Fortunately this problem has already been fixed in the Lemmy codebase by allowing multiple actions to be sent in parallel (github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull…) - however, what causes the continued problems nowadays is the fact that Lemmy.World is still awaiting that upgrade to 0.19.6 to make use of that change in the codebase (release notes) (actually now 0.19.7 is already out too, having come less than a week after the former, and representing just a few bugfixes, release notes). When Lemmy.World upgrades to one of those, a good deal of these systemic issues should calm down, by a GREAT deal, if not entirely.
Afaik, there is nothing particularly special about instances running PieFed having troubles connecting to any Lemmy instances. In fact it seems rather stable compared to many (even most!) others - particularly StarTrek.Website that has poor uptime. In fact, piefed.fediverse.observer/list reports that piefed.social has a remarkable uptime rate of 99.89, which I very much believe, compared to the aforementioned StarTrek.Website's rate of 98.20, although a year ago when I left it it must have been significantly poorer b/c it would be down for days sometimes, and every single action took like a minute sometimes, back then. Your own instance reports 98.60 - does that sound right?
Rather, it is Lemmy instances - particularly smaller ones (e.g. lemmings.world/post/14171987) - having trouble federating specifically with Lemmy.World.
And then recently there were a bunch of instances having troubles connecting to lemmy.ml too (lemmy.world/post/22196027) - though this one is more expected as that one is administered by the developers of the Lemmy codebase, and thus that is the place where they test out all of their new code in beta, prior to deploying it across the entire Fediverse. Sometimes that leads to some REALLY odd behaviors, such as entries disappearing from modlog files that were extremely concerning to people, but it is par for the course with that highly special instance, which is unique in its manner.
Edit: ah and I neglected to answer one of your questions: as you said, the way to tell if something federated properly or not is to check the instance - specifically the one hosting the community that you are sending it to. So e.g. to check a post to !tenforward@lemmy.world, I would visit Lemmy.World. If it is there but not on your home instance, then at least that particular message packet got sent, even if the message packet from Lemmy.World to your instance got lost or fell behind in its processing backlog somehow.
Thank you for all the detailed explanation. Seems I wasn't aware of lots of current events. Especially regarding Lemmy. I always thought it can't be too hard syncing posts to 45k (monthly active) users... I guess there's still some way to go.
By the way, Piefed does not pull in remote communities by default. It only does it once a local user subscribes. And that's why a lot of them are missing on my own instance. I skipped quite some of the meme communities when I switched. And I'm already trying to foster smaller instances. I don't subscribe to communities on lemmy.ml and I'd like to have an alternative to lemmy.world. But you're right. A lot of the activity here happens on lemmy.world and we can't do without.
And last Lemmy instance I used was discuss.tchncs.de which always seemed fine. But it has a very capable admin and is located in Germany, so probably not too far out.
My uptime should be less than other servers. I'm using it for testing and development. And sometimes I break stuff and it's down until i figure things out.
Lemmy.World is still awaiting that upgrade to 0.19.6 to make use of that change in the codebase (release notes) (actually now 0.19.7 is already out too, having come less than a week after the former, and representing just a few bugfixes, release notes).
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I know how email works but it sure didn't help me understand the fediverse.
It's just one thing in email servers functioning that is similar in the fediverse, everything else is not similar. It is just confusing to compare the two to anyone not yet knowing how the fediverse works IMO.
"It's like the postal service!"
"It's like the internet!"
Just say it's like reddit (or a social media) but free and open and anyone can have/make one, or use an existing one. For free.
Same. I don't know why people keep trying to use the email example, personally I found it too much of an abstract concept that doesn't necessarily work for Lemmy.
If I knew someone used Reddit then I'd just say it's like Reddit but instead of a single authority in charge of Reddit, anyone can take the Reddit software and host it themselves, and if you create an account on one site you can still subscribe to subreddits on other sites and vote and comment on posts.
Don't explain anything, there's literally no point. Why are nerds so insistent that people understand technology?
Just tell people to make an account on any instance, whichever one you like best, and let them experience federation. Even if they never really understand what is happening they can still use the service. It's not like any of them understand how email works, and yet they all use email. Understanding is worthless. Stop being nerds.
I think one of the main reasons why the fediverse didn’t blow up much bigger than it did over the past couple of years is because of the weird and insistent need to explain how it works from every possible angle with seemingly every possible analogy. It’s information overload and it only confuses the shit out of people who do not care in the slightest how it works.
Hmm… maybe if we tell the nerds that they need to add an “abstraction layer” to their explanations that might motivate them to simplify?
People have been using email since they were five and all modern lives depend on it. If they don't understand federation they will just be confused why they can't see the content and leave. "I didn't understand it and it didn't work" is one of the more commons reasons I've seen on Reddit for failing lemmy
But they should still see content, even if they don't understand anything.
The only way they won't is if the admins decided users shouldn't see anything without first subscribing to something, which is a terrible way to ease people in to the service. There needs to be a default feed so normies can use it too!
Unless an instance enrolls in Lemmy-federate, the default behavior is that a user, even on the /all view, will only see local communities, and outside communities that another local user has sought out and subscribed to.
If a newbie joins a small instance and doesn't know how to seek out communities that interest them with lemmyverse.net, they would likely have a very small range of content in their feed.
Lemmy-federate helps by auto subscribing an instance to participating communities, seeding a wide range of content immediately.
A large instance would offer a good experience either way, but would encourage centralization without Lemmy-federate existing.
Assuming they search Lemmy, and one of top results is the join-lemmy page (second result for me, below Lemmy.world), the server recommendation tool can suggest small instances with only a couple hundred members. For instance, if one selects Art as the topic and English as the language.
The entire world relies on email but you can blow people's minds if you tell them you can read Outlook emails in Gmail or read Gmail mailboxes in Outlook. The days of everyone having a local email client are long behind us, people don't know the difference between apps and servers anymore.
"It works like email" means "oh, so I need to create a new account, like when I installed the Outlook app" to most people. Shockingly few people know the bare basics of how email works. You'll be surprised how many people I've spoken to don't understand that someone@gmail.com isn't the same person as someone@outlook.com. I have been called a liar and a hacker for demonstrating I could send an email from f.l.lastname@mydomain.tld. Whatever you think the base level of technological knowledge the average person has, it's ten times higher than what people actually know, and that includes young people.
Why are nerds so insistent that people understand technology?
Because technology forms the basis of the online environments we inhabit, and gives us the tools to tell how, say, our data is stored and processed.
If you're going to get in the water, it's probably a good skill to be able to swim. If you're going to drive a car and don't have the faintest idea how the engine works, you'll be at the mercy of manufacturers and mechanics.
The solution to your issue is not that everybody should conform to the lowest common denominator of technology literacy, but that the general internet user should get a fucking idea of the environment they navigate.
Nerds don't just want to teach people to swim. They want to teach them about hydrogen bonds and the mineral contents of the water, the processes of water treatment, and the technical requirements for a functional pool.
Nerds don't just want to teach people to drive. They want to teach them about the engine, the drive train, the underlying transportation infrastructure, and how to change their own oil and tires.
If you want people to swim or drive or use the fediverse you skip all that shit. Normal people do not care.
Nerds don't just want to teach people to swim. They want to teach them about hydrogen bonds and the mineral contents of the water, the processes of water treatment, and the technical requirements for a functional pool.
And I think that's beautiful. There is nothing like watching someone explain something they're passionate about.
There's something wrong with hurting other people's ability to access the fediverse with insufferable nerd explanations that have nothing to do with posting.
"hurting"? someone yapping about the fediverse is a minor inconvenience at worst. A TON of people that are on Lemmy don't know how it works, or even care about how it works, and that's perfectly OK. Nothing wrong with going on !cat@lemmy.world and upvoting the cute cat pictures.
Well, apparently you consider basic maintenance like changing tires superfluous to driving. Says all I need to know about your mindset on the other subjects.
Long story short, there is no ideal generalist instance. If you open the top 20 instances (fedidb.org/software/lemmy/) - Lemmy.world is too big - Lemm.ee is federated with hexbear and lemmygrad, something that is not very welcoming to new users (see this thread: sh.itjust.works/post/28798607/… ) - sh.itjust.works names contains "shit", which can deter users - lemmy.ca is Canadian-centric - feddit.org, as you mentioned, is German-centric, but technically English speaking too - dbzer0 federated hexbear - programming.dev is topic-centric (and has a database corruption for the last month programming.dev/post/20515601?…) - blahaj is queer-focused - discuss.tchncs.de has a difficult name - lemmy.sdf.org does not defederate anyone - lemmy.zip is federated with hexbear and lemmygrad - sopuli.xyz doesn't have "lemmy" or "feddit" in its name - beehaw is way outdated - infosec.pub is topic-centric - aussie.zone is country-centric - midwest.social is region-centric
The next page has reddthat.com which is known to have federation issues with LW due to its location in Australia, and lemmy.today which does not defederate anyone
Honestly I'd say lemmy.world is probably the ideal for redditors, I agree it's too big, but it's probably the safest option for people without a lot of knowledge. sh.itjustworks is also IMO fine if you know the person isn't offended by language.
That's the main issue. Its size creates 5-days delay with some instances
The issues have been here for months, are not going to be fixed any time soon as the latest Lemmy version still has issues like the pictures one: github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issu…
Requirements Is this a bug report? For questions or discussions use https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support Did you check to see if this issue already exists? Is this only a single bug? Do not put multipl...
I promise you that if you collect 10 random people and ask them what Ohms law is, at most you get 5 that knows it's something about electricity. You are lucky if you have one that knows it.
I can only speak for myself here but... A lot of things are taught in school. Most of them weren't something that I use everyday and thus have forgotten about it (some more than others, of course).
Ohm's Law would've been taught to me sometime during highschool (as the other commenter mentioned, I can tell you it relates to electricity but without looking it up I couldn't tell you the actual principle behind it) - I graduated from highschool 10 years ago, and have not had a reason to "flex" that memory ever since then.
Wife had to do this the other day. She catches me trying to explain and convince tech basically recommending something with an open door to say no or disagree why you like it. She says just tell them to use it and if they love you they will.
And it's true. I have my extended family on signal.
This is how you get people whining about there being 8 different "Politics" groups, and insisting they should be allowed to erase the identity of the hosting website.
The patchwork nature of the fediverse is baked into the technology. If people don't at least have a basic model for how it behaves, then they're just going to get pissed off at it and leave.
Ypu don't need to know how an internal combustion engine works to drive, but you have to understand how driving works, both from the perspective of operating a car, and from that of the conventions of the road.
"Just find a pretty car and hop behind the wheel" is bad advice for everyone.
I now after many years of living understand most people don't care or even want to understand how anything works. It completely baffles me.
Everyone I know says I'm smart but nah, I was literally in special Ed classes in school. I'm proven slower than the rest, but I am just curious and want to understand how things work which no one else does. It blows my mind how uninterested people are in the things they use everyday
You sound like someone who would enjoy The Secret Life of Machines. I've never met anyone else in real life who wanted to watch it with me, for the reasons you mention.
You might be slower than the rest, but still smarter than them. Hare and turtoise kinda situation. Nothing wrong with being a slow learner, the willingness to learn is where it's at.
I am just curious and want to understand how things work which no one else does.
It depends on how interested you are in a subject. Everything is interesting, but you may not find everything equally interesting, nor do you have time to know everything there is to know about everything.
For instance, if I fly somewhere, I have a general idea of how wings create lift. But if you try to explain it to me in detail, I'll tell you to piss off because all I really want to do is travel from A to B.
But I know plenty about other subjects that I'm really into, that I could bore you to tears with and you'd end up punching me in the face if I tried to explain them to you.
It's not okay to not know anything about something. But it's okay to know enough.
That's fine but when people use technology every day, their phones, computers, ect.. and not know what a web browser is that's a whole different level of ignorance. Not just computing tho also cars. I barely know much about cars but I understand the idea of an engine, like you said it's okay to know enough. If something breaks on my car I look it up on YouTube and learn a little more slowly. Some people tho will drive a car everyday for their entire life and not understand what a piston even is.
I'm really disappointed with Lemmy's idea of federation: all it is is a bunch of servers mirroring one another, but the user accounts are server-bound. No jumping instance and taking your identity seamlessly with you.
This isn't really Lemmy's idea of federation, it's just ActivityPub, the underlying protocol. Having a mechanism for jumping servers is unfortunately quite complicated and it isn't clear how it should be done or if it is even possible.
Lemmy does allow you to export and import your settings though, so you can kinda do it but you lose your history.
Yea moderation becomes a big problem once you can't actually block people. I don't like that Nostr describes itself as censorship resistent or even censorship free, that's not a good quality.
Censorship-free implies that moderation is impossible. If you don't have moderation, your social media will turn into a Nazi bar.
you can just hide messages from selected users in client
That's not good enough. First of all, users don't want to have to block people before having a good experience. Users don't want to deal with moderation themselves, but they also don't want mean people, harassment and nazis. It's not easy to recruit moderators for online forums, not a lot of people want to deal with that stuff.
But secondly, client-level blocking is not effective. It does not stop those bad users from continuing their bad behavior. In the case of Lemmy, it also doesn't stop their votes from still affecting your feed.
So yes, censorship-free platforms are not good because censorship-free means moderation-free, and users don't want that.
I think you (and the Nostr people as well) are just muddling terms here. Censorship is about an external 3rd party (usually the Government) preventing you from seeing things you are potentially interested in, not (as in the case of Lemmy) your service provider and their trusted moderators helping you curate your social media experience. If you are unhappy with the moderation you can easily switch to another instance and use other communities.
First of all, users don't want to have to block people before having a good experience.
In general conversation in distributed protocols is opt-in, not opt-out. If you see something you don't like in Briar/Tox/Jami, then it is only because you actively seek it.
I don't expect non-tech people to ever come to or care about this place, or Mastodon.
Part of social media is predation. There is a draw to Facebook, even if it is the endless sea of bullshit emanating through it, the marketing of products and echo chambers.
people would love to be entertained by our intellectual discussions!
They watch Adam Sandler movies, lad. We've already lost.
It's a draw. We have no draw, other than being DIY NPR (now with 5% more tankies). It's a draw, but it won't draw them. It's not what they care about.
I don't think it matters. the specific ways in which email services work or are used are not what the analogy is supposed to explain.
it's supposed to explain how two people who log in to different lemmy instances is different from logging into Facebook and MySpace, or Twitter and Threads.
"how does it work? aren't they different sites?'
"you know how you can have a gmail and someone else can use an outlook email but you can still send emails to each other"
done. even 70 year olds would get it. problem solved. easy, approachable analogy.
Exactly this. The second you utter the word "federation" you can see people's eyes glaze over in real time. The email explainer is good but it really needs to be a short sentence and that's it
They all complain about "Muh Open source UI bad" Ok then what is considered a good UI/UX according to you lot (Not you lot in particular I'm not trying to start any beef here)
& how does one decide that particular UI is User-Friendly ?
Personally I disagree with the statement, first off, I don't see an alternative explanation offered. the point is an easy analogy to give them rough concepts. looking at the problems listed in the OP.
Gmail users believe the only ways to access a Gmail account are through the official web client at mail.google.com, and the official Gmail app for iOS and Android.
First off there... so the web client off the bat.... what's the problem there, that we aren't burrying them with "oh if you like you can use alexandrite, or one of 30 other web clients, and then tell it the instance". The point is we're trying to reach out to the non tech savy. If their assumption gets them to something that works, then there isn't a problem, just as not knowing that they can install an e-mail client to check their gmail, isn't stopping them from using gmail.
Now the andriod/ios clients, that is the one drawback, you do have to tell them the name of one of the apps, and tell them to pick the website they made their account on from the dropdown. It's not a huge deal but it is an extra step. If the goal is to reach out to the non tech savy though, the goal has to be to minimize the steps as much as we can.
Then it goes on to say people are picking instances based on moderation politics etc... Lets face it regular people don't... and they don't care. Really like 2% of people actually hit points where moderation is a visible thing to them. usually because they are on the edge of a political side.
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